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Swing Analysis: Wayne D. November, 2013

Each week I take whatever time I can find and try to film myself hitting a few shots. I’ve been working out consistently (I do a half hour of isometrics and stretching, a half hour on the elliptical, and a half hour of resistance, band and floor training) trying to gain overall strength and I have been able to up the work on my lower body since starting with my new M.A.T. guy. My goal is to build myself up as best I can so that I can withstand the stress involved in staying out over the ball while keeping my hips deeper in both the backswing and the forward swing. You will see in these swings (a 7 iron and a 3 wood) that I am better with the shorter clubs, as the added pivot range necessary for the bigger swings leads me to continue to lift in the middle of the backswing. The timing of the lift, while in itself not a huge amount, leads to subtle sequence problems which cause not so subtle issues with face, path, and angle of attack. After I did this video I worked on it again and it occurred to me that having my elbows even height-wise at left arm parallel is of major importance in my (and any) swing, as the lifting that occurs usually causes the left arm to raise and the right elbow to fold in. In my case the loss of depth allows me to overturn and I cross the line at the top, and when I make my transition move my weight moves to the front of my left foot without enough rotation built in to open my hips in a timely fashion. You can see that my approach is a good deal above my initial shaft plane, which might be manageable (though still not desirable) if my hips were deeper. The bottom line is that I continue to need work on deepening both back and down, and it would appear that if I am ever going to get back to hitting the ball the way I used to this has to get better.
 

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7 Responses to Swing Analysis: Wayne D. November, 2013

  1. Tony Light November 26, 2013 at 12:53 am #

    Great stuff Mr D. To see you overcoming physical injury and getting to where a 25yo tour player is is inspirational.

    Just one question. You always advocate attempting to get the club back on address plane at impact. Is this not impossible? Doesn’t centripetal force lift the hands at impact?

    And, I know you point out that Hogan, Vijay and Garcia achieve this, but my understanding is very few other tour players do. If you were to do one of your “where are the top 50 at impact” studies would not it show most of them with higher hands at impact?

    You have it as a criticism of your own swing, but to me it is not a fault. Breaks my heart to see you grinding to achieve something that is not necessary. By all means go for the added posture and arms hugging ribs and exiting more left etc, but lower hands at impact? Defies Newtons laws does it not?

  2. Mark Osborn November 26, 2013 at 5:46 am #

    What part of Newton’s laws of motion formed that hypothesis?

  3. Tony Light November 26, 2013 at 6:07 am #

    Doesn’t the speed of the club head have a “pulling” effect along the shaft? ie centripetal force? Wouldn’t that then “straighten” out the angle formed at address. F=ma. Where the force pulling along the shaft would be the mass of the club head x the acceleration – which in this case is the continual change of direction of the club head as it follows the arc. Otherwise it would go in a straight line, Newtons first law of motion.

  4. Mark Osborn November 26, 2013 at 1:02 pm #

    The force makes the shaft bend away from the player at impact (I trust you know this). This would make the hands to move closer, not further away. e.g. if you stuck a practice stick (or broken shaft) into the ground and addressed it like a normal shot, then bent it to mimic impact, there’s only one place the hands can go. Towards you and down. Try it.

    If you watch Wayne’s vids you’ll notice that virtually everyone who comes in high is doing so due to lack of space for the right elbow. Head goes up, hips go forward, hands go out (high). Newton’s third law, cause and effect.

  5. Tony Light November 26, 2013 at 6:55 pm #

    Mark,

    I must admit your description has surprised me. I hadn’t thought of the forces at work like that before.
    So you are saying that because of the downward bend of the shaft, which i assume is caused by the shape of the head, the hands will naturally be pushing down to resist this.
    Sounds reasonable.

    But what about the fact that with the exception of a few players, some of who i listed above, most have their shaft on what I would call elbow plane (ie a plane going through the elbows at set up), at impact. Just looking at swings of Tiger and Adam Scott and they are on elbow plane at impact. With irons and woods. And surely no one swings it technically better than those two.

    By the way, this is not my idea. I am just repeating what my golf pro has been telling me for the past decade.

  6. russ aragon November 26, 2013 at 10:41 pm #

    Nice WD way to keep yourself real!

  7. Mark Osborn November 27, 2013 at 5:02 am #

    Tony,

    Tiger and Scott both hit the shaft plane at impact bud? Watch Wayne’s vids on them.

    The elbow plane is an arbitrary point of reference because people set up differently and have different shaped bodies. This idea of getting the shaft and forearms to match up is Mo Norman and, in my mind, is born of a human obsession with straight lines. Golf just doesn’t work like that.

    By the way, watch Mo’s fireside chat on YouTube, brilliant. He sounds like Porky Pig, “people only use half their brains, such a shame” bda bda bda dat’s all folks! We now know this to be untrue, we all use our whole brain, it’s just some are better at golf than others.

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